tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23497822.post2810648723295244343..comments2023-09-03T02:48:20.340-06:00Comments on Jordan Bunch: A Vision for the Church<b>Jordan Bunch</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13980748950651703085noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23497822.post-9288975003462403502010-12-07T21:57:53.919-07:002010-12-07T21:57:53.919-07:00One major example of a movement I see happening no...One major example of a movement I see happening now in this generation that is both deeply contemplative and actively engaging in mission and justice is the 24-7prayer.com movement. <br /><br />I agree with Heath that it is a contemplative movement. It is the time with the Father that form who we are as the people of God, and that move us into mission. But you are also correct Rob, it is absolutely demonstrative, actionable, and catalytic. It takes vision and action together.<b>Jordan Bunch</b>https://www.blogger.com/profile/13980748950651703085noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23497822.post-8021996588618705102010-12-07T21:57:36.802-07:002010-12-07T21:57:36.802-07:00The ancient mystics, during certain periods, were ...The ancient mystics, during certain periods, were often the evangelicals who struggled for evangelism & just community. To separate these often reinforces dualism. I do find that dualism to be common today. The contemplative seems to be overly pious. The action oriented seems to lack thoughtful reflection. this is an over-generalization, but is observable in this generation. Heath is attempting to draw from ancient evangelists who are centered in contemplative practice to seemingly address contemporary dichotomies.Jarednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23497822.post-32453042328665909842010-12-07T21:57:16.972-07:002010-12-07T21:57:16.972-07:00Elaine Heath argues that historically catalytic ac...Elaine Heath argues that historically catalytic action grew out of contemplative practice. History -- at least certain periods of history -- seems to be on her side.Jarednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23497822.post-10048380375928881212010-12-07T21:57:01.048-07:002010-12-07T21:57:01.048-07:00and it is more decisive than mystical.and it is more decisive than mystical.Robertnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23497822.post-41022675664712640222010-12-07T21:56:43.750-07:002010-12-07T21:56:43.750-07:00I love this vision, it is Prophetic. (seriously......I love this vision, it is Prophetic. (seriously...not ironically, not cynically.....this is a beautiful near-future-vision.)<br /><br />But it is demonstrative and actionable and catalytic.<br /><br />Not contemplative.Robertnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23497822.post-17319313831751537912010-12-07T21:56:28.475-07:002010-12-07T21:56:28.475-07:00I just got done reading The Forgotten Ways... it m...I just got done reading The Forgotten Ways... it may turn out to be a series of 100 blog posts... Extremely helpful tool<b>Jordan Bunch</b>https://www.blogger.com/profile/13980748950651703085noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23497822.post-86968624617385954642010-12-07T21:56:17.272-07:002010-12-07T21:56:17.272-07:00it's a good read.it's a good read.Jarednoreply@blogger.com